Bearclaws Disc Golf Association

Looks like Codurus State Park is the home of the 2009 PA States....

Why didnt Allentown put in for it?

while that is cool, I was really looking forward to an Allentown States!

damn....

Enjoy the soap opera that is the LVDC Message Board... This thread explains everything...or maybe not...

http://www.lvdiscgolf.org/main/newbb+viewtopic.topic_id+335+forum+1+post_id+3860.htm#forumpost3860

This is why I'd rather drive an hour to play with you guys"...

Why is it that the soap opera's always start when Mr LaGrassa shows up?

Ray, why don't you ask your president why he created the soap opera? Why don't you ask him why he never returned three e-mails asking about the LVDC bid for States? Why don't you ask him why after crying bloody murder last year after not being awarded the 2008 PA States Bid, and after accomplishing so much this year in terms of course improvements, again running a successful tournament series, running a PDGA "C" tier event in September with significant sponsorship from local businesses, the desire to bring the PA States back to the eastern portion of the state, upholding my pledge to give the LVDC top consideration for the bid, and basically being a "shoe-in" for being awarded the event, the LVDC then decided *NOT* to hold the event next year? Why don't you ask him why he just assumed that the LVDC could not hold the event two years in a row? Why don't you ask him why he doesn't realize that it's these assumptions and lack of communication that causes all the headaches and the drama?

ONE e-mail to me at any point in the process telling me that the LVDC has decided against a 2009 PA States, and to opt for a 4-course 2010 PA States would have avoided this entire drama. But of course, it's never anyone else's fault. It's always me causing the soap opera.

Finally the desired response from the LVDC:



Finally! One simple exchange, that took all of 30 seconds, that could have come from either Jason, Ray or Robin at any point and avoided this entire soap opera.

Unbelievable.

You must carry a backpack full of controversy around with you Jeff.

Just to clairify: This whole thing is because i did not have access to my email for a period of 5 days, and there fore did not read/reply to any messages.

Looks like jeffs flying way off the deep end over something so trivial as not getting an email from me, i think he may have a man-crush on me.

Jeff has my cell #, i do not have his. But anyone whos been on our board or the PDGA board or even your board know that jeff's prefered method of communication is to air out dirty laundry on a public message boards. If i needed to talk to Mike S or whoever and sent them 3 emails but got no reply, i would simply call him. Not post on, so far, 2 different message boards blasting people or organizations.

Just concede Jason...no matter what, in the end Jeff will be correct in what he says.

"Just concede Jason...no matter what, in the end Jeff will be correct in what he says"

LOL, i though whoever posts last wins?!?

I just find it funny that jeffs two levels of communication are:
1. e-mail &
2. soap opera.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hoops, I love how you throw in little barbs and make conclusions about a situation you know absolutely nothing about. Here are the cold hard facts for you, and for everyone else, to understand:

• October 2007: LVDC and IDLA submit bids for 2008 PA States
• November 2007: 2008 PA States bid is awarded to Indiana. LVDC officers and LVDC members cry bloody murder over not getting awarded the bid. PA State Coordinator outlines why, and everything needed to do in 2008.
• December 2007 - September 2008: LVDC makes major course improvements, again runs a successful tournament series, runs a PDGA "C" tier event in September with significant sponsorship from local businesses. Based on all these positive aspects, the desire to bring the PA States back to the eastern portion of the state, upholding my pledge to give the LVDC top consideration for the bid, the LVDC is basically a "shoe-in" for being awarded the event.
• Beginning of October 2008: E-mail is sent to all TDs in the state of Pennsylvania soliciting bids for PA States 2009 with a deadline of 10/31, including Jason Davis, Robin Billig, and Ray Rogers. If the LVDC has decided not to submit a bid for 2009 PA States, they do not indicate so during the entire month of October.
• Thursday October 30th 2008: E-mail is sent just to Jason Davis, Robin Billig, and Ray Rogers reminding them about the deadline of October 31st. If the LVDC has decided not to submit a bid for 2009 PA States, they do not indicate so.
• Monday morning November 3rd 2008: Having not received anything over the weekend, e-mail is sent just to Jason Davis, Robin Billig, and Ray Rogers asking why their bid was not received. If the LVDC has decided not to submit a bid for 2009, they do not indicate so. No one contacts me. I have no phone number for any of them. All I hear is the sound of crickets chirping.
• Tuesday night November 4th 2008: I make a message board post on the LVDC site expressing my utter confusion about why after raising holy hell last year about not receiving the bid in 2008, the LVDC does not make a bid this year for the 2009 PA States.
• Wednesday Nov. 5th 2008: My post is removed from the LVDC site. I finally get a response and excuses from Jason Davis about not having e-mail access, wanting to do a 4-course PA States in 2010, and assuming (incorrectly) that the LVDC could not have done a PA States both in 2009 AND 2010. When in fact, Indiana did it two years in a row and I believe Codorus did too.
• Thursday Nov. 6th 2008: I am subjected to numerous personal attacks on message boards and via private e-mail about the "soap opera" and "drama" I cause.

WHEN THE ENTIRE THING COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY ONE SIMPLE COMMUNICATION TO ME BY JASON DAVIS, RAY ROGERS OR ROBIN BILLIG!

Hilarious!

All this because he got stood up for the "prom".........awe.

Now the focus has shifted to other officers, surprise, sirprise. Dude's got issues.

Thank you for your time bearclaws.